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Newbie with a Winston Professional and Some Questions

PostPosted: February 10th, 2015, 7:38 pm
by mike3216
Hello, I'm new here and know little or nothing about vintage baseball gloves. Baseball was my sport up until high school, and I still love the game. I frequent thrift shops, and I had never seen a vintage glove at one until yesterday. I had to buy it (for $.99). I would love to know a little about it. It is a Winston Professional Model. There isn't a lot of information available online for this glove. From what little I know, I'm guessing late 1940s??? I always thought that gloves were endorsed by one player, but this one has one "main" signature and three smaller, lighter signatures. The main signature appears to be "Carter", but the only player I've found that might match the time frame is Blackie Carter, and the signature does not match that. Can anybody tell me anything about this glove? Thanks in advance.
Mike

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Re: Newbie with a Winston Professional and Some Questions

PostPosted: February 11th, 2015, 9:49 am
by vintagebrett
The glove is more of a 1950's early 1960's model than 1940's. The signatures are not the endorsement - they appear to be signed onto the glove at some point in time. Maybe a previous owner took it to a ballgame and had some players sign it? I'm not good at deciphering autographs but maybe they were minor league players?? Looks like the maker, WInston, was going for a full on knock off of Wilson gloves at this time - the font they used for their branding is almost identical. Hope that helps a bit

Re: Newbie with a Winston Professional and Some Questions

PostPosted: February 11th, 2015, 8:12 pm
by BretMan
From the time that companies started making baseball gloves and up through the 1950's, sporting goods manufacturing was almost exclusively an American venture. By the early 1960's that had changed. Overseas manufacturing proliferated and imported gloves began flooding our market.

Winston was one of the dozens of "off brands" made overseas and shipped to the U.S.. While a nearly complete history of the major companies can be found (Rawlings, Wilson, Spalding, McGregor), so many of these offshore makers came and went that little historical information exists for them.

By the 70's there was some shakeout. To compete, the American companies began producing their own gloves overseas. Most of the small foreign brands died off, never to be heard from again.

While not being especially collectible, the Winston glove does offer a good glimpse into state-of-the-art glove technology, circa 1960. And, it's a survivor, having lasted 50-plus years. It caught your eye and got you interested in vintage baseball gloves, so there's certainly some value to that!

Re: Newbie with a Winston Professional and Some Questions

PostPosted: February 12th, 2015, 7:23 am
by mike3216
Thanks for the replies. They were very helpful. I was surprised that this could be as late as the 1960s, because when I started playing little league (in 1972 :roll: ), gloves looked a lot more like they do today. That decade must have been a time of major change.

Re: Newbie with a Winston Professional and Some Questions

PostPosted: February 12th, 2015, 4:51 pm
by Number9
It's funny, and sad, that there was such a blatant attempt to rip off the Wilson identity with the Winston logo. The W is very close, as is the overall typography in the logo. Someone reached out to me a few weeks ago about a Trylon glove. I was sure he was reading Tryon incorrectly. Sure enough, an import.