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Recent haul, D&M Stengel

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 3:15 pm
by Number9
Found this collection at an antique mall on the NY/MA border a few weeks back. The seller wouldn't break up the collection so I ended up pulling the trigger on the whole lot. Paid a fair price, it wasn't a steal, but I think I did well. Most of it will be for sale or trade as some of it doesn't line up with my collecting interests.

The gloves I really wanted were the D&M one inch and the W&D full web. All the other stuff is pretty nice, just a little late for my taste.

I suspected the D&M to be a Casey Stengel, but when I looked it up I couldn't find anything with that model number or even a glove listed with his endorsement. I know he was a D&M endorser though as he is shown on an ad that I have. The model number is JG32. I'm not sure what the J designation stands for. I don't see it listed on any D&M gloves in my old source book. His signature is clearly there. I can read C D Stengel. Looks like there might be some script missing from his name. His full name is Charles Dillon Stengel so it all makes sense. If any of you D&M collectors have any info on this glove please let me know. I'm not holding out too much hope however as the old price guide that I have has him listed as "none known".

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PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 6:42 pm
by Rickybulldog
Wow! Amazing find! That glove looks great. What are the measurements on that bad boy?

Josh, that's a backside you can appreciate! :lol:

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 7:02 pm
by Number9
The Stengel is about 10.25" tall by 10" wide. On the large side for sure.

Thought perhaps it was a gamer based on the model number being unlisted and with the unusual "JG" as opposed to the stand "G", but Stengel was a lefty. Darn facts.

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 7:15 pm
by cubsrno1
Number9, I did some searching on this glove. On JD's site, there is a copy of a 1923 D&M catalog that show a picture of a G32 with what looks to be a C D Stengel endorsement. You may want to asked JD to look at the catalog as it's a little difficult to look at the endorsement when you increase the size. Plus, on a previous page of the same catalog listed players from the Giants and Yankees that used D&M gloves and the name Stengel appears on the list of names on the Giants. A quick Google search of Casey Stengel's bio listed him as a player on the Giants from 1921 to 1923. With that, it is likely that you a Casey Stengel endorsed glove which would be, maybe the first known.

I just wonder what the J in the JG32 model number stand for. Congrats on a super find!

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 7:17 pm
by vintagebrett
Great stuff! Betcha won't think twice about stopping at an antique store when pulling off for gas ever again! :lol:

The Stengel glove would be another addition to the mystery D&M's that we've discussed on the board before - there have been quite a few.

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 7:20 pm
by Mr. Mitt
Sweet... never heard of a Stengel turning up before... fantastic glove!

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 7:38 pm
by Number9
Thanks guys. This glove is right in the center of my interest, sewn web, great quality, New England brand, it wasn't going to last long in that store. Still, I really didn't know that I'd have turned up the first known Stengel. Pretty cool.

This find is going to make every road trip a lot longer. I mentioned the story to Brett last week at the GBSCC, so I might as well share it here. I'll keep it short, but basically, I was low on gas returning from upstate NY. I pulled off the highway to get gas and noticed an antique mall next to the filling station. I never find anything, ever, so I was completely prepared to walk out empty handed. As soon as I walked in they were set up on the table inside the door. It was meant to be. I didn't have cash on me so I had to mail a check when I got home. The wait was killing me.

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 8:00 pm
by ebbets55
William, what a great find. How cool is it to turn up the first known model of anything, let alone a 20's D&M 1" web of Stengel. Love hearing these stories. Here's the best pic I could come up with. Sure enough the G32 was a C D Stengel. The J has to be a regional mark or a mark to a specific dealer.

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PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 9:42 pm
by Number9
That's the one. Thanks for digging up that image.

J Model

PostPosted: June 10th, 2009, 11:25 pm
by Bravosin99
We also have a 20's D&M where the model number starts with JG. Posted a question in a previous post about the J being there. Still a little confused.
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RBD I always post all the goods :lol:....I don't tease with just the front.
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PostPosted: June 11th, 2009, 12:50 pm
by Deacon
great pick ups Number 9
It's nice to see that there are still treasures to be found.