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Looking for early XPG3/A2000
Posted:
February 13th, 2007, 3:26 pm
by softball66
Does anyone, maybe Gloveworks, have a 1950s A2000 and also a late 1950s XPG3? If so I need some pictures of them, comparisons.
Thanks
Posted:
February 13th, 2007, 4:01 pm
by Deacon
I have a 50s A2000. Would email some photos if you'd like.
XPG3, A2000
Posted:
February 13th, 2007, 4:02 pm
by glove-works
Hello Joe,
I have both, and will send pic's tonight.
Mike
Thanks Guys!!!
Posted:
February 13th, 2007, 11:22 pm
by softball66
Reason I'm doing this is for a little research. When Wilson introduced the A2000, I think it caught Rawlings a little off guard because it was unanimously praised as a novel design. I think Rawlings responded with its XPG series which was in early stages of development and I wanted to compare the two. Mike will be able to tell more first hand by having his hands on the gloves. Rawlings also came back with the TRAP-EZE which it had been working on for five years prior to its big release in 1960.
Dave M. just sent me a shot of a 1958 Wilson A2 to look at too. Not much difference in the 1958 and the 1959 A2000.
Posted:
February 14th, 2007, 8:08 pm
by glove-works
Joe,
Just e-mailing you pic's now.....The earliest XPG3 I have is a 1960 Herb Score Personal Model, wasn't this the 1st year? I have also sent pic's of my late 50's RSP, and late 50's A2000.
Mike
Much Appreciation
Posted:
February 15th, 2007, 9:51 am
by softball66
Thanks G.W.!!!
This is a big help in addition to the catalogs I have. The late 1950s brought us the prototypes of the gloves we use today: the hinged gloves and many novel web designs.
Very Similar
Posted:
February 17th, 2007, 11:13 am
by softball66
Thanks to Mike Gloveworks for providing me with comparitive first XPG3 (score model) and first A2000.
Here's what I wrote back to Mike:
"Mike, if you take a look at the XPG3 Score and the A2000 fronts. They’re terribly similar. The Wilson has an “Lâ€
Front pic's as requested.
Posted:
February 17th, 2007, 11:44 am
by glove-works
The A2000
The Score XPG3
The RSP just because
Posted:
February 17th, 2007, 3:56 pm
by V-Anchored
Thanks for all of the interesting information and pictures. I remeber one time around 1960 Dizzy Dean on the Fallstaff Beer game of the week for some reason was comparing an old glove with a current glove and the current glove that he had was a Rawlings Trapeze. He referred to it as a 6-finger glove.
I also recall going to a game in Cleveland in 1959 against the Yankees. Elston Howard was playing left field that day and was using a new Rawlings Trapeze. I remember him robbing someone of a home run and I decided then that the next glove that I bought was going to be a Trapeze. I finally got it in 1961, a TG24 Bob Turley model which I still have.
More info.
Posted:
February 19th, 2007, 1:03 pm
by glove-works
Mike, that’s what I thought. The A2 makers went more for thinness and the XPG “Uâ€
More comparison
Posted:
February 19th, 2007, 1:08 pm
by glove-works
The XPG3 Score measures 11.75", and the A2000 about 11.5". The wrist straps are significant, in that the Rawlings is much wider, and heavier...the Wilson strap is narrower, making the conventional opening feel a bit deeper. The A2000 and RSP seem to have much more in common, size, feel, etc. I have a few other XPG3's, Spahn, Boyer, etc., and they each measure 12", same as the XPG6's.
Rawlings EM HOH
Posted:
February 19th, 2007, 1:21 pm
by glove-works
This glove is very similar to the early A2000.
The heels are more alike than with the XPG3.
Posted:
February 19th, 2007, 9:29 pm
by mudman
The early A2000, really looks like a first year HOH Mantle that I have, I believe it's a MMP.