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New company?

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 1:19 pm
by softball66
Anybody done any business with these guys?
http://bornagaingloves.com/Customs.aspx


:?:

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 4:52 pm
by fuzzydogg22
i hope not. At those prices, you would have to have stacks of 100's to give away.

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 5:18 pm
by jwoody
WHO IS T.L. PORTER AKA BORNAGAINLIVING ....THIS WAS TOPIC BACK IN FEB. 14, 2007....OLDGLOVES.COM....HE WAS BUYING LOTS OF GLOVES THAN....CHECK SEARCH FOR T L PORTER OR BORNAGAINLIVING, FOR MORE INFO IF INTERESTED........

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 5:40 pm
by fuzzydogg22
i remember it well, brimstone and all

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 6:02 pm
by s_esco
They bought many gloves on ebay under many names around a year or more ago. In addition to T.L. Porter, they used the name of oldgloves.com, true.believer, be.ye.perfect and possibly touchem.all.

PostPosted: October 12th, 2008, 6:35 pm
by fuzzydogg22
they obviously are in dire need of a vintage baseball glove priceguide too

Reproduction expensive

PostPosted: October 13th, 2008, 8:44 am
by softball66
I know from experience that getting reproduction glove work is expensive, if you have to do them one or two at a time and you don't have dies to stamp out the various patterns, especially so many that bornagain has chosen, and some of these are fairly intricate.
At first I thought maybe this was the Sports Doctor, John Golomb. And I don't know if T. L. has purchased books from us and wonder if he's on this glove forum. I do have a long time subscriber in Waukesha WI.
We've had to get out of the Nokona replica business as all of our dies went up (melted) in the fire. So did the horsehide for the Ruth gloves.
Nocona is considering putting out a limited edition 75th anniversary glove next year (75th year in the glove business, not as a company). I'll have more info on that later.

PostPosted: October 13th, 2008, 10:42 am
by BretMan
Ah, but Joe, you're missing the (rather bizarre) point. This guy isn't making vintage glove reproductions. He's taking real, old, authentic gloves and hand painting them in weird color schemes, to turn them into unique, one-of-a-kind "artworks".

Or, if you prefer, taking old, authentic vintage gloves and...killing them! Rendering them useless as baseball goves or collectible items.

I'm pretty sure we discussed him here last spring, when he was operating his website under the name "Art Gloves". His website name and marketing angle seems to change as often as his eBay username. When he first started out, he was selling plain old unadorned vintage gloves- at inflated prices, apparently, after grossly overpaying for them in the first place on eBay.

Just in case it sounds like I'm being a kind of harsh, I do defend every person's right to spend their money as they see fit and do with their own possessions as they wish. But, personally, this gentleman's eBay activity and marketing angle do seem a little off-the-wall.

To each his own. It's just too bad that those poor innocent gloves have to die in the process!

PostPosted: October 13th, 2008, 11:22 am
by fuzzydogg22
bret i could not have said it better (or more eloquently) myself

PostPosted: October 13th, 2008, 1:46 pm
by MTGLOVEGUY
Hi all, I had dealt with Rick at Born Again a number of times before he went to the "restoration" process only. His prices for the gloves before he switched to the painting process were reasonable for the most part and a guy could get a few deals here and there. I am not sure if he would sell the gloves without his "restoration" process but if he did the prices listed I am sure would not be what he would ask. I know before he would sell the gloves that had been on his sight for a while at reduced prices on ebay. If anyone knows him personally please ask him to go back to selling just gloves. I would think the business would be much better. I personally don't know of anyone who is ok with him ruining perfectly good vintage items.

joe, say it is so

PostPosted: October 13th, 2008, 4:08 pm
by softball66
"Aaah so," the emperor ming exclaimed. I did indeed miss the point or the paint, so to speak.
Well that relieves part of the puzzlement. Pick your color and voila the glove is a horse (cow) of another color. Odd yes. Don't guess he'd ever go bats.
First name Rick. Anyone got a last name?
Long-time Glover Glenda Olszowy lives in Waukesha. I've written to her about Born Again.
Just would like to learn more. :oops: