Rawlings Codes; More Than Just Dates

[Hrking4675]

Just out of boredom I have a few things that might help some people out, and a few questions I was wondering if anyone knew anything about.

Rawlings glove codes: (Excluding stock model pro preferreds such as a PROS15TCB or a PROS17ICB ect. If you are reading this you probably understand me)
Anything with a 200-____ is usually an 11.5" glove
Anything with a 201-____ is usually an 11.75" glove
Anything with a 1000-____ is usually a 12.25" glove
Anything with a 504-_____ is usually a 12.5" glove
Anything with a 302-_____ is usually a 12.75" glove

Personalized Glove Codes:
PRONP- Neifi Perez Model. NP3- 11.25, NP4- 11.5, NP5 11.75
PROAK- Adam Kennedy Model From my findings from 11 to 11.25
PRODJ- Jeter Model. Mostly all 11.5"

Web codes (Numbers only, no TC for mod trap or IC for I web conventional back ect):
EG: 200-1 Single post web
1- Single Post Web
2- I-Web
3- Basket Web
4- Modified Trapeze
6- H-Web
8- Solid One Piece
9- Solid Two Piece
11- Basket Connector
12- Rawlings version of the Dual Hinge

Color Codes:
EG PRO200-2JB 11.5" glove with I-Web and all black (Hence the B)
Anything with a JBT is usually black and Tan
JGN- Grey and Navy
JR- Royal Blue

Leather Codes:
Anything with a "K" is pro preferred leather. However, I own a Josh Cenate gamer that has the model PRO1000-9K but is stamped HOH. These may have been mis stamped. I may be wrong here.


My Questions:
1) So I have noticed that some newer Pro Stock HOH's and Pro Pref's have a model # like PRO200-4K. This indicates it should be an 11.5" modified trapeze in Kip (K) leather. However the glove will be 11.75" Are the number codes more specific to shape than size?
2) Also, I understand why a glove with an "SO" at the end (Special Order) could be a bigger size, but has the "SO" been replaced by "PRO?" For example I have a PRO12TCKPRO and it is 11.75" as apposed to the 12 inches it should be since it is a PRO"12"
3) What does the "J" stand for in the color coding? A PRO200-4B and a PRO200-4JB seem to be the same to me, maybe its welting color?
4) What is the deal with the new date code? EG: EHEA

[V-Anchored]

Another personalized glove code PROJP20 - Jorge Posada catcher's mitt.

[golfswing]

Does anyone know if there is a difference between a stock pro preferred such as a PROS15TCB vs. a pro preferred with a K? I have a couple of the K models and the leather doesn't seem as stiff and seems easier to break in. The K models I have also have grey welting instead of the camel welting. Is there a real difference or is it just me? Thanks.

[Hrking4675]

Im pretty sure pro issue ones come with a "K" and that if anything this leather is probably better. My gloves with a "k" seem stiffer to me... My PRO200-4K is much stiffer than my PROS15TC

[spedrunr]

although i'm not a huge fan of the pro prefs (unless i can flip it on ebay) and i don't really care when it's made :p

i'm going to take a stab at the date code:

B1
L2
A3
C4
K5
H6
O7
R8
S9
E0

EHEA=0603

looks to me to be a made in March 2006 glove(?)

[Hrking4675]

Hmm if the new ones do follow the old BLACKHORSE code, i think it might be the other way around. That was the date code off of my old PROSNP4G. I think it was more reasonable to think it was made in June '03 seeing as I sold it on ebay back in 05. My PROS17ICB (the special ed on from ballgloves.com all black is EKEK). 05/05. I bought it in 07/06. Not sure if that code still follows, but maybe.

[spedrunr]

elementary my dear watson

that makes more sense

[glovemedic]

Hmm if the new ones do follow the old BLACKHORSE code, .... My PROS17ICB (the special ed on from ballgloves.com all black is EKEK). 05/05. I bought it in 07/06. Not sure if that code still follows, but maybe.

I checked the code on some recent gloves we just purchased. My son's GG models: ESEO (09/07), my HOH models BBEO (11/07). Both check out relative to our purchase and order dates. With respect to the model numbers, this is certainly more complex. On my recent HOH models CGB27F, and CGB15C, I think this breaks down as Custom Glove Black 27 "12.75" F Fastback and Custom Glove Black 15 "11.5" C Conventional back. My previous HOH models are Pro-AR3 and Pro-302HF. The AR-3 designation probably relates to Alex Rodriguez model because Rawlings always promoted this as the glove designed by A-Rod, eventhough he never was photgraphed using the model, besides it is an 11.75" glove so I am sure it would have been too big for a SS. The Pro-302HF could be the 12.75" with H web and fast back? It would be cool if there was a catalog available for those dates. Also those gloves are dated by the single and double dots on the thumb.

[Mike_2007]

And a 512 is 12":