Important Glove Terms

[GloveCrazy]

OK so, maybe I overstated the importance in the heading but it made you look, didn't it. To paraphrase one of my favorite players, Crash Davis, this is supposed to be fun, darnit! I've met with one of the Webster family members -- a third cousin, Alfie -- to come up with these new terms to describe various glove types and glove collecting experiences:

- Doldy - a desirable older (pre 40s) glove that doesn't seem to have enough available to meet collector demand.
- Quommon - a top quality collectible glove that is highly available. My favorite is the Riddle but Doak H and A2000 also come to mind.
- Veryant - a desirable variation of a popular glove like the Vance buckleback, unique model doak,
- Crestaken - a 30s softball glove incorrectly descibed as a crescent.
- eBruise - when you ebay win turns out to have an undescribed significant flaw that you don't like. The glove itself of course is an eBruiser.
- Perplaced (from the latin permanently placed) - When you pick up a poorer condition placeholder that never seems to get upgraded.
- Puped (prononced pyooped) - A top quality glove that for some horrible reason was made with plastic piping. Some Williams SFs come to mind.
- Dupster - When you "win" a glove that you believe to be an upgrade, but you like it less than the one you currently have.
- Highhorsed - when a once highly sought after glove loses some of its momentum because either more are found or collectors have moved away a little from that collecting subset.
- Noidea - what you say to your wife when she finds that gunky glove green stuff permanently wedged in the carpet.

Test Q1, the A2000 shooting star version isn't a quommon it's a ______?
Test Q2, Darn dupster, now I'm stuck with this ______?

I'm looking for alternate terms from the for these ten and of course some new ones.

Calling Mike Johnson, we need your literary experence ... stat!

[BretMan]

Splint-finger: A split-finger glove where someone has punched their own holes and crudely laced together the fingers.

Malaced: A glove with some of the leather laces replaced by shoestrings.

Wrong-handed: Any glove made for a lefty.

[Mike**Mize]

Great list; and funny too. On a serious note there's always these standards;

T-O-L or the variant Near T-O-L meaning top-of-the-line or among the very best of a brand for any given year. I love those best.

Holy Grail Glove; Depending upon the era; The G41, The Ken-Wel Gehrig zipper back. The Rawlings MM. The list goes on and on....great gloves all!

Clouded Endorsement (sigh); Like my Spalding Home Run Special Catchers mitt where I've seen the Ruth Signature; I know it's there, but I sure wish it was a little more visable.

Trash (not a collectable). I'm reminded of a Wilson Jackie Brandt glove I once received where it was so shot and so dry that it was actually no longer anything other than trash. Happily I was able to convince the seller of that fact and get my money back.

MTL Mitt. Usually applies to 40's and older gloves where absolutely everything about it is perfect except for the mysterious Missing Thumb Lining!

Character Glove. As in a beloved old beater. These are the old ones that are peppered with vintage repairs. The Frankenstein Full Web I picked up from JD a few years ago comes to mind. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, clearly. I love having some of these around.

Block of Ice. Careful don't drop one of these old glove oil gloves
or it might shatter into a million pieces. I had a Reach 3 finger like this once and stuffed it in a vacuum bag smothered in One-Step for a few hours and managed to bring the leather back to life.

[GloveCrazy]

Literally laughed at loud at malaced and splintfinger and anticipate using them as part of my normal vocabulary. Really. Holy Grail and malaced also got me thinking:

- grailed - cleaning off a glove and finding a valuable endorsement (any)
- degrailed - thinking that a little moisture will help your valuable faint endorsement come to life only to have it vanish
- Billied - cleaning of a glove to find a kid's name or any ink underneath
- Dahlgren - uncovering a not so great last name after the first name had such great potential
- talaced - an old glove that has been relaced with a new looking lace (such as tan)
- braced - breaking a lace during cleaning, though I've used other, more colorful, words as well
- thrabel - a really nice glove with thrashed label
- frosted - six months after saddle-soaping a real dry glove
- Lee Majors - a glove that has had at least one component significantly upgraded after market, like putting some of those cool 40s Wilson, MG snare, or Goldsmith webs on another glove

And for you traders:
- hot pototato - glove that has been owned by three different collectors within two years
- boomerang- glove that you end up with again after trading/selling it
- ping pong - trading it away and getting it back from the same collector within a year in a separate transaction

I'm sure there are ugrades to these, and I can't think of anything for a NM glove with a rotted lace or a nice glove with missing label. Keep them coming ... I'm going to add the top ones to my website at some point.

[MTGLOVEGUY]

Nice list of words! the trader portion for me.... no pun intended but fits me like a glove!

[GloveCrazy]

Yep, me too related to the trade terms. In fact, Ricky and I recently ping ponged a glove in the span of a couple of weeks. The amount of trades you, Ricky, Robbie, etc. put together has been fun to watch from the sidleines, though I'm itching to get in the game. Nice to see, though, that you found another black Tryon full web to go after (in Illionois) instead of mine.

A couple others:
- laked (pronounced lay-ked) - a nice glove with missing label
- nugget - one sought after glove in a pile of junky gloves at a flea market, antique shop, or a glove group ebay picture.
- twins - owning/displaying both the lefty and righty versions of the same model (book ends?)

[MTGLOVEGUY]

No I still want yours, as the other one is a 1" web, I would like to get you in one these back and forth deals as well, a certain TruSport glove comes to mind..... hmm what can offer? JD said you saw the D&M, how close am i to the Tryon? Please don't feel like you have to stay on the sidelines... we all play fairly!

[Rickybulldog]

Funny Rob. At first, I was thinking this as comical, but looking at it now it may actually be helpful in describing a glove/flaw. I have this major problem when describing a glove. Sometimes a "tear" gives a negative connotation, when in reality it's something much smaller or less severe.

A couple actual terms (that I did not coin, but still love) used in my circle of glovers:

Thinning the herd: Expression of selling your gloves/ebaying your gloves

Brothers/sisters: gloves that are the same model.

Bookends: a lefty/righty version of the same glove.

Alligatoring: (JD I think) a rough/ scaly liner

Trading Machine: A person who trades a lot

Beater: A glove that is beat to hell.

Filler/placer: A glove that just fills a spot and waits to be upgraded.

Here are some of my new ones:

Nicodemused: A glove that has been chewed on by an animal or a nervous fielder. (Named after the d&m dog)

Scarecrow: a glove that has been filled/stuffed with other items other than the padding. I had one filled with socks!

Turner/Tilter: A glove with a faint endorsement

Snooped: A glove that has both the adjusting holes rippped/snipped to make one big hole.

Shirted: a glove with a "factory" shirt button!

MacGyvered: a glove that has different objects to lace it (wire, shoe string, yo-yo). Also, a technique where someone uses whatever they find to lace/fix the glove.

Visitor: a non USA glove

Loved all the trader ones may become a norm in my vernacular. Keep em' coming!..............RBD

[GloveCrazy]

Yea, I can see the ebay listing now, "It's a bit of a quommon now because I degrailed it accidentally, moving it to dupster status. I think the web may have been LeeMajored but it looks great, Its a bit of scarecrow but able to stand in a display. The pictures are a little misleading ... its actually not a splintfinger. Please ask questions prior to bidding."

Slowly back way from the Tryon. Ricky, what was the line in Spinal Tap when they were looking at the unplayed with original tag? "Let's move on from this one."?

Great posts ... keep 'em coming!

[Rickybulldog]

In Nigel's voice..."Don't touch it.! Don't even point at it."

That listing was funny. By the way, I'm trying to think of a special name for those gloves that are always thrown in every trade to round it out.
Would like it to be a word or mean something that everyone doesn't love/want but still gets.

[GloveCrazy]

Stepchild is all I can think of off the top of my head, like that grimey, shirted D&M 1" web that has been hotpotatoed (to me now). I'll work on a better one.

[cubsrno1]

I can't keep myself from laughing! These are all great and creative words. I have even started to use them.

We do need a word for a glove that someone is always trying to trade but can't seem to find a taker. Great stuff guys!!

[Mike**Mize]

How about trading partners and other sources of gloves.

Side Venture Trader.....The best! He's saying, "I love baseball cards, or Jazz CD's or Paintings and just happen to have this Alexander Speed Model kicking around that I don't know what to do with.

Welcome To the House of The Golden Keepers Trader; ...You can try, but don't get your hopes up.

The Lopsider...Watch Out! I'll give you my Musial PMM for your Dazzy Vance.

The Klinger.. (I'm guilty of this)..."Let me think about it and get back to you.

The Natural Born Trader....As it happens, things always seem to click.

The Abysmal Story Teller.....He's got what you want if you can get through the stories.

The Tip Top Dollar Guy...It's all yours and you can pay it off over the course of the next two years. In the end, once you forget about the cash, you'll be glad you picked it up. It's a keeper.

[vintagebrett]

Great stuff guys! I have to say I've been "Dahlgrened" a couple times.

[GloveCrazy]

Icing. Icing is the word for the throw-in that rounds out a trade.

Hey, what's wrong with PMM Musials ... they are an acquired taste, which leads me to ...

- bordeaux -- wasn't a keeper at first but seems to grow on you more and more. Bordeaux sounds crisper than fine wine

More traders:
- generational - who wants to trade new for old.
- stringer - offering same item to multiple people (behind the scenes)

- nailed, crucified (hopefully not offensive, but if so lets come up with something better), or B&Cd (Bonnie and Clyded) depending on the number of holes

And my new favorite, a stunner glove with bad lacing is a -- wait for it -- a butterlace!