by breakin » July 18th, 2009, 3:39 pm
Hi, thanks, I actually said i may return the glove based on the fact he told me he had to put conditioner on the glove so that it would "appear as it did in the picture", and what made me think was.... what do you mean you have to put conditioner on the glove so that it looks like it does in the pictures? Didn't you JUST take the pictures? And the stuff already wore off? But I got the glove and the glove did not look anything like the pictures. The pictures looked much darker/richer and when the glove arrived it was actually light brown.
I did pick up a copy of that awesome pocket guide to gloves by Dave Bushing and Joe Phillips, (Joe was the one who turned me onto this site!)... and it does have a $500 stated value in the better condition. It is in pretty nice shape so I actually did buy it based on that book value, not the association with the #5, though I was under the impression that it was not known what it meant. And that with some perseverance, possibly I could find out what it means and within a couple weeks, I now know what it means.
The 5 appears to be a stamp, (after seeing it I thought it could have been the remnants of a price tag) the tag is crooked being almost a triangle, and it appears that it could have been a mistake and got caught in the machine or it wasn't torn off in the next phase of the assembly line? Nevertheless.. My gut instinct is if a company was to put a tag of a players # in the glove, they would do a stand up job, not a hack like this tag, the 5 is very close to being stitched over. And the fact that he said he researched for 18 months and couldn't find any info, almost to the point where this was the only tag in existence, yet was in contact with Joe P, yet never thought to ask here on this forum. Or did he? I actually mentioned to Joe at the time I got the glove who the seller was and he mentioned another person entirely that he had spoken with about the glove. So, there appears to be a mystery 3rd/4th party?
But I can see why this whole deal would upset some folks...it allows you to concoct thoughts to fill in holes...... from the description, being a manufacture myself, I thought there was a possibility, before I got it of course, that Spalding made up a batch, gave them to Joe, and Joe gave them out to people on his travels, he seems like the kind guy who would have. I know this is a fabrication of my own mind but I was lead to fantasize what it could be when it was nothing at all. Which I think is where the danger comes in.
When I asked the seller why he treated a glove after he sold it, he said he was doing me a favor and I thought he should have asked first. Afterall, it was no longer his glove to put chemicals on. I did blow up and said I may return the glove and he was upset telling me what an amazing deal it was, etc etc... but he did agree to accept a return. I don't like returning items from people I get into arguments with. So... I really didn't feel good about returning the item wondering when/if/how long it would take to actually get the money back. So... just like diving for a line drive and missing it, you get up and wipe your pants off and get ready for another. But I hear you, there are rules and it's a matter of principles. I left him a positive, I was trying to be nice, but I should have held off because to this day, I believe the seller has yet to reciprocate.
Oops, sorry to ramble.